Season 1

Episode 3 Part 1

Today we catch up with New Zealand teacher Angela Tutty, to talk about New Zealand literature. The interview was super packed with good material and went for quite a long time, so I have cut it into 2 parts. This is the first part and I am sure you will want to return for the next one.

Angela talks to us about the historical and cultural developments that are far more advanced than many other countries with colonial pasts. While she will not attempt to speak to how a Maori person would respond to our questions, she does talk about the growing practices of Maori culture and language that are evident in schools.

This is a fascinating exploration of the ways that countries that are colonially damaged can move forward.


Carolyn Newall


Angela Tutty

Authors discussed in podcast

  • Alan Duff
  • Janet Frame
  • Katherine Mansfield
  • Keri Hulme
  • Patricia Grace
  • Witi Ihimaera

Children’s authors

  • David Hill
  • Margaret Mahy

Typical NZ


Wild Pork and Watercress by Barry Crump


  • Boy directed by Taika Waititi
  • Hunt for Wilderpeople directed by Taika Waititi


Iwi – tribe

Marae – meeting place of iwi (tribe)

Powhiri – to welcome

Tangata whenua – people of the land

Treaty of Waitangi – NZ’s founding document signed between Maori rangatira (chiefs) and British crown

Waitangi Tribunal – a commission of inquiry that claims are brought to by Maori for breaches made by the Crown that oppose promises of the Treaty

Waka – canoe

Whanau – family

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Season 1, Episode 2 Gwee Sui Li - Singapore 45 mins

Gwee Sui Li, a poet and educator from Singapore joins us to talk about Singapore literature.


Season 1, Episode 3 Angela Tutty - New Zealand Part 1 | 43 mins

Angela Tutty, a New Zealand teacher joins us to talk about New Zealand literature.


Season 1, Episode 3 Angela Tutty - New Zealand Part 2 | 41 mins

We are with Angela Tutty again, learning more about New Zealand  literature.


Season 1, Episode 4 John Ryan - Ireland | 42 mins

Irish teacher, John Ryan joins us to explore the history that has informed Irish culture, while introducing some new names to add to our lists.


Season 1, Episode 5 Milton Villarroel - Bolivia | 47 mins

A fascinating look at Latin American and Bolivian culture and history with Bolivian Educator Milton Villarroel. This one has given me a few more books to read and a couple of people to chase down. Milton has already done work on cultural signifiers, what Edward T Hall calls The Secret Language.


Season 1, Episode 6 Jeffrey Weingarten - Canada | 49 mins

We are joined by Professor Jeffrey Weingarten from Canada who takes us for an entertaining walk through Canada's literary history. We also hear about Canada's colonial past. And their is an interesting side discussion about how we manage 'difficult' in the 21st C